Problema aggiornamento pacchetto pgfplots

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    Buongiorno a tutti! Premetto che sull’installazione di nuovi pacchetti ho provato a seguire tutte le instruzioni sul forum ma non sono riuscito a venirne a capo! Vi spiego il problema:
    Su Windows, con MikTeX 2.8 completo, ho scritto un documento che utilizzava il pacchetto pgfplots. Ora passando su Ubuntu 10.04 e TeXLive 09 questo documento non compila più e da errore! Allora sono andato a vedere la versione di pgfplots nel log ed in effetti era una versione vecchia! Cercando nella documentazione del pacchetto come fare per aggiornare ho letto che per tale pacchetto non c’era un aggiornamento continuo nella TexLive e veniva consigliato di aggiungere un repository privato da cui ottenere l’ultima versione in automatico del pacchetto!Andando in http://sourceforge.net/projects/pgfplots/ e scaricando il readme.txt, si legge che viene consigliato di aggiungere questo ppa
    `https://launchpad.net/~johannes-reinhardt/+archive/ppa`
    La versione qui presente è la 1.3.0 (l’ultima è la 1.3.1 credo). Fatto ciò il file compilava anche se non mi riconosceva un’opzione passata a \pgfplotsset (compat). Essendo questa una nuova opzione ho pensato che dipendesse dal fatto che la versione del pacchetto installata in questo modo non fosse proprio l’ultima e allora per avere tutte le cose precise ho provato ad installare manualmente il pacchetto nel mio albero personale. Come spiegato in molti forum ho creato la serie di cartelle home/spike/texmf/tex/latex/pgfplots e ci ho messo il pacchetto aggiornato dentro! Ma le cose non sono cambiate. Nel log ho visto che pgfplots viene caricato all’ultima versione ma ci sono un sacco di pacchetti annessi che rimangono non aggiornati, come tikz! Come devo fare per aggiornare tale benedetto pacchetto? Per completezza allego il .log.
    A questo punto io pensavo che TeXLive mettesse a disposizione tutti i pacchetti aggiornati all’ultima versione, se così non è come si fa a sapere se si ha una versione vecchia o una nuova? Grazie mille per l’aiuto e scusate se mi sono dilungato troppo!
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      texlive mette a disposizone l’ultima versione dei pacchetti, e’ la versione pacchettizzata di ubuntu che e’ congelata alla prima versione e non piu’ aggiornata.
      per risolvere il tuo problema devi aggiungere nell’albero locale tutti i pacchetti che ti servono aggiornati, quindi anche tikz.

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      Se intendi quella presente qui `http://www.texample.net/tikz/builds/` non riesco comunque a compilare. Ottengo lo stesso errore! Riporto la parte di .log “utile”! Come mai tikz non si aggiorna?Non è questo il pacchetto da installare?
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      postaci un esempio minimo del listato che produce l’errore.
      la versione di tikz e’ vecchia comunque.
      hai aggiornato il database con texhash dopo aver installato il pacchetto aggiornato?

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      Eccolo qua:
      `\documentclass{book}

      \usepackage{pgfplots}

      \pgfplotsset{compat=1.3}

      \begin{document}
      \begin{tikzpicture}
      \begin{axis}
      \addplot {x};
      \end{axis}
      \end{tikzpicture}
      \end{document}`
      Il .pdf viene comunque creato con l’immagine all’interno però l’errore c’è sempre! Eliminando la riga \pgfplotsset l’errore scompare!
      Grazie per le veloci risposte!!

      Fra

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      a me compila con pgfplots 1.3 e pgf/tikz 2.00 e cvs, quindi sembrerebbe che hai la versione minima necessaria anche di pgf.

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      🙁 come è possibile che non mi funzioni?ho provato a ridare anche texhash ma niente! Inoltre non ho capito come mai tikz non si aggiorni!

      Ancora grazie
      Fra

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      🙁 come è possibile che non mi funzioni?ho provato a ridare anche texhash ma niente! Inoltre non ho capito come mai tikz non si aggiorni!

      Ancora grazie
      Fra

      hai messo il pacchetto nel posto giusto?
      il percorso dove scompattare il pacchetto che hai scaricato e’

      `$TEXMFLOCAL`

      che corrisponde a /home/nomeutente/texmf normalmente.
      comunque, la versione scritta nel log potrebbe essere non aggiornata: controlla nel log che il percorso del pacchetto sty che viene caricato sia quello locale.

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      Allora il percorso non è $TEXMFHOME? Quello suggerito da te mi restituisce /usr/local/share/texmf invece $TEXMFHOME mi da /home/spike/texmf!
      A parte questo nel log si vede che qualcosa viene caricato dalla cartella giusta, mentre una miriade di altri (credo) sottopacchetti di pgf vengono presi dalla /usr/share/texmf.
      A questo punto dovrei prendere uno per uno quei pacchetti e inserirli nella versione aggiornata in $TEXMFHOME (o LOCAL)? Ci uscirei pazzo!!! Riporto di nuovo la parte di log relativa al pacchetto così si capisce meglio:
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      la variabile non fa differenza, ero io che avevo ridefinito TEXMFLOCAL invece di usare TEXMFHOME e me n’ero scordato 🙄

      direi che non hai installato bene pgf:
      sembra che i pacchetti in $TEXMFHOME/tex/latex siano ok, ma manchino quelli in $TEXMFHOME/tex/generic (sono utilizzati quelli della installazione standard).

      ricontrolla l’installazione di pgf/tikz nel tuo albero locale!

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      Funziona! 🙂 Proprio come avevi detto tu, non avevo installato correttamente pgf. In pratica la cartella generic non l’avevo proprio copiata perchè non sapevo di doverlo fare! Quindi ovviamente l’installazione era fatta a metà! Il fatto è che ero convinto che ci fosse solo una cartella necessaria, anzi pensavo fosse necessario solo il file .sty posizionato nella giusta cartella. Invece credo che per pgfplots, che è un pacchetto che utilizza a sua volta altri pacchetti, la cosa non sia così semplice! A questo punto mi sorge un dubbio: conviene davvero installare la versione presente nel gestore dei pacchetti di ubuntu se poi non viene mai aggiornata? Non è meglio scaricarla direttamente dal sito o, meglio ancora, da qualche repository su internet in modo da avere l’aggiornamento automatico?
      Una piccola curiosità OT: perchè ridefinire TEXMFLOCAL allo stesso modo di TEXMFHOME se c’è già TEXMFHOME?
      Comunque queste difficoltà che ho incontrato sono dovute alla mia inesperienza con sistemi Linux spero in futuro vada meglio!!!

      Grazie mille di nuovo!!!
      Fra

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      Funziona! 🙂 Proprio come avevi detto tu, non avevo installato correttamente pgf. In pratica la cartella generic non l’avevo proprio copiata perchè non sapevo di doverlo fare! Quindi ovviamente l’installazione era fatta a metà! Il fatto è che ero convinto che ci fosse solo una cartella necessaria, anzi pensavo fosse necessario solo il file .sty posizionato nella giusta cartella. Invece credo che per pgfplots, che è un pacchetto che utilizza a sua volta altri pacchetti, la cosa non sia così semplice! A questo punto mi sorge un dubbio: conviene davvero installare la versione presente nel gestore dei pacchetti di ubuntu se poi non viene mai aggiornata? Non è meglio scaricarla direttamente dal sito o, meglio ancora, da qualche repository su internet in modo da avere l’aggiornamento automatico?

      Già detto in passato, ma vale la pena ripetersi.

      Ubuntu è basata su Debian, di cui usa l’infrastruttura per l’aggiornamento del sistema e delle applicazioni. Metodo che ha i suoi vantaggi: controllo delle dipendenze e aggiornamenti più semplici perché dipendono solo da un programma, cioè Synaptic (o le chiamate a livello più basso di apt-get e programmi dello stesso tipo).

      Gli sviluppatori di TeX Live avevano due possibilità: adeguarsi o rassegnarsi al fatto che TeX non fosse disponibile sul sistema in modo semplice.

      Adeguarsi a Debian richiede parecchie modifiche al modo di installare TeX Live rispetto ad altri sistemi, perché quella distribuzione pretende che i file di configurazione stiano tutti sotto /etc. Inoltre richiede anche una frammentazione in tanti pacchettini, come è chiaro guardando la lista con Synaptic. E, naturalmente, nessuna possibilità di avere tlmgr (non può esserci un secondo gestore di pacchetti, nemmeno per un sottosistema).

      Questo rende complesso aggiornare TeX Live su Debian e, infatti, non ci sono stati aggiornamenti di alcun tipo dalla prima uscita: è la versione che andò a suo tempo in testing.

      Soluzione? Sei ami il rischio installi la TeX Live a parte, altrimenti ti adegui.

      Una piccola curiosità OT: perchè ridefinire TEXMFLOCAL allo stesso modo di TEXMFHOME se c’è già TEXMFHOME?

      Ognuno si fa del male come preferisce. 🙂

      Ciao
      Enrico

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      Una piccola curiosità OT: perchè ridefinire TEXMFLOCAL allo stesso modo di TEXMFHOME se c’è già TEXMFHOME?

      TEXMFHOME non e’ definita di default (non lo e’ sul mio sistema, piu’ precisamente) e andava comunque aggiunta a qualche file di configurazione.
      invece di definire quella, ho ridefinito TEXMFLOCAL in modo tale che essa non sia in un percorso di sistema (in /etc), che non mi piace perche’ fa parte delle partizioni che formatto nelle reinstallazioni, mentre la /home non viene mai toccata.
      in pratica mi garantisco di non scrivere dove potrei perdere dati modificati da me.

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      Una piccola curiosità OT: perchè ridefinire TEXMFLOCAL allo stesso modo di TEXMFHOME se c’è già TEXMFHOME?

      TEXMFHOME non e’ definita di default (non lo e’ sul mio sistema, piu’ precisamente) e andava comunque aggiunta a qualche file di configurazione.
      invece di definire quella, ho ridefinito TEXMFLOCAL in modo tale che essa non sia in un percorso di sistema (in /etc), che non mi piace perche’ fa parte delle partizioni che formatto nelle reinstallazioni, mentre la /home non viene mai toccata.
      in pratica mi garantisco di non scrivere dove potrei perdere dati modificati da me.

      Sbagliato. TEXMFHOME e TEXMFLOCAL sono variabili “virtuali” che i programmi TeX si autodefiniscono (se non le trovano nell’ambiente). Per trovarne il valore, usa una shell nella quale annulli la definizione di quelle variabili e da’ il comando
      `kpsewhich -var-value TEXMFHOME`
      e analogamente per TEXMFLOCAL. La definizione standard di queste pseudovariabili è in uno dei file texmf.cnf. Leggiti la guida di TeX Live e trovi tutto.

      Ciao
      Enrico

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      [quote]Una piccola curiosità OT: perchè ridefinire TEXMFLOCAL allo stesso modo di TEXMFHOME se c’è già TEXMFHOME?

      TEXMFHOME non e’ definita di default (non lo e’ sul mio sistema, piu’ precisamente) e andava comunque aggiunta a qualche file di configurazione.
      invece di definire quella, ho ridefinito TEXMFLOCAL in modo tale che essa non sia in un percorso di sistema (in /etc), che non mi piace perche’ fa parte delle partizioni che formatto nelle reinstallazioni, mentre la /home non viene mai toccata.
      in pratica mi garantisco di non scrivere dove potrei perdere dati modificati da me.

      Sbagliato. TEXMFHOME e TEXMFLOCAL sono variabili “virtuali” che i programmi TeX si autodefiniscono (se non le trovano nell’ambiente). Per trovarne il valore, usa una shell nella quale annulli la definizione di quelle variabili e da’ il comando
      `kpsewhich -var-value TEXMFHOME`
      e analogamente per TEXMFLOCAL. La definizione standard di queste pseudovariabili è in uno dei file texmf.cnf. Leggiti la guida di TeX Live e trovi tutto.

      Ciao
      Enrico[/quote]

      quelle variabili mi servono anche esternamente (software che non fa parte dello stack texlive).
      comunque hai ragione, forse e’ meglio ridefinirle attraverso l’ortodossia texlive

      `TEXMFHOME=$(kpsewhich -var-value TEXMFHOME)`

      (anche se cosi’ diventano dipendenti dalla versione di texlive in uso… io ne ho 3 attualmente in giro!)

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      [quote][quote]Una piccola curiosità OT: perchè ridefinire TEXMFLOCAL allo stesso modo di TEXMFHOME se c’è già TEXMFHOME?

      TEXMFHOME non e’ definita di default (non lo e’ sul mio sistema, piu’ precisamente) e andava comunque aggiunta a qualche file di configurazione.
      invece di definire quella, ho ridefinito TEXMFLOCAL in modo tale che essa non sia in un percorso di sistema (in /etc), che non mi piace perche’ fa parte delle partizioni che formatto nelle reinstallazioni, mentre la /home non viene mai toccata.
      in pratica mi garantisco di non scrivere dove potrei perdere dati modificati da me.

      Sbagliato. TEXMFHOME e TEXMFLOCAL sono variabili “virtuali” che i programmi TeX si autodefiniscono (se non le trovano nell’ambiente). Per trovarne il valore, usa una shell nella quale annulli la definizione di quelle variabili e da’ il comando
      `kpsewhich -var-value TEXMFHOME`
      e analogamente per TEXMFLOCAL. La definizione standard di queste pseudovariabili è in uno dei file texmf.cnf. Leggiti la guida di TeX Live e trovi tutto.

      Ciao
      Enrico[/quote]

      quelle variabili mi servono anche esternamente (software che non fa parte dello stack texlive).
      comunque hai ragione, forse e’ meglio ridefinirle attraverso l’ortodossia texlive

      `TEXMFHOME=$(kpsewhich -var-value TEXMFHOME)`

      (anche se cosi’ diventano dipendenti dalla versione di texlive in uso… io ne ho 3 attualmente in giro!)[/quote]
      È proprio questo il bello di queste variabili: si aggiustano da sole secondo qual è l’eseguibile kpsewhich che viene usato per determinarne il valore. Chiaro che se le imposti nel .profile sei fritto e non puoi modificarle senza un logout oppure una nuova impostazione.

      Se ti servono in uno script, impostale nello script stesso.

      Ciao
      Enrico

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        Ubuntu è (o era) un magnifico sistema operatovo delle famiglia Debian; la 9.10 girava benissimo sul mio vecchio portatile, mentre la 10.04 me lo incastra dopo pochi minuti. Tuttavia anche prima installavo TeXlive scaricando il tlmgr dal sito CTAN e installavo la TeXlive vera, aggiornabile col il tlmgr. Il tutto funzionava a meraviglia.

        Peccato che in questo modo non potessi installare certi pacchetti che secondo Synaptic/apt-get etc. avrebbero delle dipendenze dall’installazione del sistema TeX che, come ha giustamente scritto Enrico, non risulta nella lista dei pacchetti installati se non si segue l’ortodossia Debian.

        Sembrerebbe che sia possibile aggirare questa difficoltà inserendo delle informazioni virtuali nei file con i quali Synaptic e apt-get gestiscono le dipendenze; ne ho trovato traccia navigando in internet, ma poi nel momento in cui mi accingo a modificare questi file delle dipendenze, dopo un po’ 10.04 si incastra e devo spegnere di brutto senza poter salvare niente. Ho rinunciato ad usare TeXlive su Ubuntu!. mantengo in azione il vecchio PC con Ubuntu solo per fare certe cosine che non riesco a fare né con Windows né con Mac; per esempio cancellare i file locked che si formano nelle chiavette quando uno ha la disgrazia di inserire una chiavetta in un PC infetto 😯

        È un vero peccato che la situazione sia questa, comunque fra i due mali, sempre se 10.04 non si incastra, preferisco avere su tutte le mie macchine una vera distribuzione aggiornabile TeXlive, che la versione Debian congelata.

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        Ubuntu è (o era) un magnifico sistema operatovo delle famiglia Debian; la 9.10 girava benissimo sul mio vecchio portatile, mentre la 10.04 me lo incastra dopo pochi minuti. Tuttavia anche prima installavo TeXlive scaricando il tlmgr dal sito CTAN e installavo la TeXlive vera, aggiornabile col il tlmgr. Il tutto funzionava a meraviglia.

        Peccato che in questo modo non potessi installare certi pacchetti che secondo Synaptic/apt-get etc. avrebbero delle dipendenze dall’installazione del sistema TeX che, come ha giustamente scritto Enrico, non risulta nella lista dei pacchetti installati se non si segue l’ortodossia Debian.

        Sembrerebbe che sia possibile aggirare questa difficoltà inserendo delle informazioni virtuali nei file con i quali Synaptic e apt-get gestiscono le dipendenze; ne ho trovato traccia navigando in internet, ma poi nel momento in cui mi accingo a modificare questi file delle dipendenze, dopo un po’ 10.04 si incastra e devo spegnere di brutto senza poter salvare niente. Ho rinunciato ad usare TeXlive su Ubuntu!. mantengo in azione il vecchio PC con Ubuntu solo per fare certe cosine che non riesco a fare né con Windows né con Mac; per esempio cancellare i file locked che si formano nelle chiavette quando uno ha la disgrazia di inserire una chiavetta in un PC infetto 😯

        È un vero peccato che la situazione sia questa, comunque fra i due mali, sempre se 10.04 non si incastra, preferisco avere su tutte le mie macchine una vera distribuzione aggiornabile TeXlive, che la versione Debian congelata.

        avevo gia’ discusso questa possibilita’ in un altro topic

        http://www.guit.sssup.it/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=8147

        e ovviamente avevo provato il metodo e non mi dava incastramenti strani…
        certo l’ho solo provato e non tenuto a lungo visto che per esigenze di compatibilita’ ho bisogno di avere anche una texlive-2009 congelata.
        spero che questa esigenze venga raccolta dalle alte sfere, che potrebbero fornire direttamente il pacchetto dummy (o in alternativa editor che non dipendano necessariamente dall’installazione della texlive pacchettizzata).

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