Ho superato la capacità di TeX!

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    Ieri ho installato MacTeX 2013 in 4:50 minuti netti 🙂

    Proprio ora ho compilato il capitolo Installare e aggiornare dell’Arte, con la modifica 2012 -> 2013 e ottengo questo bell’errore:
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    Avete idee?

    Ciao
    Tommaso

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      Non c’entra niente con la tua domanda, ma invece di dare nomi improbabili al file, tipo [tt]ArteLaTeX-ripulita.tex[/tt], avete mai pensato di utilizzare un sistema per il controllo delle revisioni, tipo git? C’è una potenziale guida tematica work in progress (molto work da fare, ma poco progress), potrebbe essere l’occasione per metterla alla prova: https://github.com/giordano/guidagit/

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        La prova è già stata fatta, ma Lorenzo vuole mantenere la sua geometria.

        Tommaso, invece, per il tuo problema bisogna cercare che cosa è cambiato in TL 2013 da produrre quell’errore, visto che anche prima lo stack size era 5000 parole, quindi 20 000 byte. L’input stack serve per raccogliere un intero capoverso; se non ci sono righe bianche o comandi \par la routine di input continua a incamerare byte finché il capoverso non finisce. Ai bei tempi del DOS le memorie, compreso l’input stack, erano molto più piccoli e mi capitava spesso di esaurirlo. Da parecchi tempo non lo vedevo più.

        Comunque un “capverso” di più di 20000 byte sarebbe veramente lungo…

        Puoi sempre controllare il capoverso che contiene il punto in cui si sviluppa l’errore; se fosse davvero lungo, spezzalo in varie parti.

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        OldClaudio” post=86432La prova è già stata fatta, ma Lorenzo vuole mantenere la sua geometria.

        Tommaso, invece, per il tuo problema bisogna cercare che cosa è cambiato in TL 2013 da produrre quell’errore, visto che anche prima lo stack size era 5000 parole, quindi 20 000 byte. L’input stack serve per raccogliere un intero capoverso; se non ci sono righe bianche o comandi \par la routine di input continua a incamerare byte finché il capoverso non finisce. Ai bei tempi del DOS le memorie, compreso l’input stack, erano molto più piccoli e mi capitava spesso di esaurirlo. Da parecchi tempo non lo vedevo più.

        Comunque un “capverso” di più di 20000 byte sarebbe veramente lungo…

        Puoi sempre controllare il capoverso che contiene il punto in cui si sviluppa l’errore; se fosse davvero lungo, spezzalo in varie parti.

        Mi risulta difficile spezzare un item di un itemize lungo due righe 🙂

        Quell’elenco contiene comandi del pacchetto menukeys. Ma mi rifiuto di credere che questa sia la causa.

        Ciao
        Tommaso

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          Non so cosa dirti; se l’item è di due righe, la cosa mi sembra incomprensibile; ma senza codice è difficile dirlo.

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          illinguista1972″ post=86425Ieri ho installato MacTeX 2013 in 4:50 minuti netti 🙂

          Proprio ora ho compilato il capitolo Installare e aggiornare dell’Arte, con la modifica 2012 -> 2013 e ottengo questo bell’errore:
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          Il capitolo, come si può vedere, è breve e ha solo testo. Non se ne parla di aumentare a mano la memoria del sistema aggiungendo:
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          Avete idee?

          Ciao
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          Si tratta di un loop simile a
          `\def\vicious{circle \vicious}\vicious`
          Puoi aumentare la memoria quanto vuoi, ritarderesti solo il momento in cui l’errore si ripresenta.

          Da che cosa dipenda non lo so. Temo che senza vedere tutto il malloppo sia difficile. Sarò a casa verso le sei e mezzo, sette.

          Ciao
          Enrico

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            Concordo con Enrico per il loop.
            A me è successo recentemente con un tikzpicture dentro un altro tikzpicture per errore di copia-incolla.

            Ciao

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            Liverpool” post=86445Concordo con Enrico per il loop.
            A me è successo recentemente con un tikzpicture dentro un altro tikzpicture per errore di copia-incolla.

            Il problema è stato identificato grazie anche a una buona Guinness. 🙂

            Una recente modifica a menukeys contiene un errore di programmazione; la nuova versione è nella TeX Live 2013 e non nella 2012 e per questo il problema si è presentato solo ora. Si trattava di un perfido [tt]\edef[/tt]; con argomento [tt]\textsc[/tt] causava appunto quel loop. È bastato cambiare [tt]\edef[/tt] nel corretto [tt]\protected@edef[/tt] per sistemare. Ero solo a metà pinta, figurati. 🙂

            Ciao
            Enrico

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            Concordo con Enrico per il loop.
            A me è successo recentemente con un tikzpicture dentro un altro tikzpicture per errore di copia-incolla.

            Il problema è stato identificato grazie anche a una buona Guinness. 🙂

            Una recente modifica a menukeys contiene un errore di programmazione; la nuova versione è nella TeX Live 2013 e non nella 2012 e per questo il problema si è presentato solo ora. Si trattava di un perfido [tt]\edef[/tt]; con argomento [tt]\textsc[/tt] causava appunto quel loop. È bastato cambiare [tt]\edef[/tt] nel corretto [tt]\protected@edef[/tt] per sistemare. Ero solo a metà pinta, figurati. 🙂

            Ciao
            Enrico

            Delle due l’una: o avremmo dovuto berci un’altra piccola, o avremmo dovuto fare altre prove. Continuo ad avere errori su errori 🙁 Quel pacchetto è pernicioso.

            Ciao
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              Elrond” post=86426Non c’entra niente con la tua domanda, ma invece di dare nomi improbabili al file, tipo [tt]ArteLaTeX-ripulita.tex[/tt], avete mai pensato di utilizzare un sistema per il controllo delle revisioni, tipo git? C’è una potenziale guida tematica work in progress (molto work da fare, ma poco progress), potrebbe essere l’occasione per metterla alla prova: https://github.com/giordano/guidagit/

              [OT]
              Ma non sarebbe meglio inserire direttamente il pdf? Per leggere la guida devo scaricare il sorgente da una cartella, la classe da un’altra cartella, crearmi una cartella per copiarci i file e compilare. Già questo mi scoraggia.
              [/OT]

              Ciao

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              Liverpool” post=86755

              Non c’entra niente con la tua domanda, ma invece di dare nomi improbabili al file, tipo [tt]ArteLaTeX-ripulita.tex[/tt], avete mai pensato di utilizzare un sistema per il controllo delle revisioni, tipo git? C’è una potenziale guida tematica work in progress (molto work da fare, ma poco progress), potrebbe essere l’occasione per metterla alla prova: https://github.com/giordano/guidagit/

              [OT]
              Ma non sarebbe meglio inserire direttamente il pdf? Per leggere la guida devo scaricare il sorgente da una cartella, la classe da un’altra cartella, crearmi una cartella per copiarci i file e compilare. Già questo mi scoraggia.
              [/OT]

              Ciao

              Nella guida è accennato perché è sconsigliabile farlo: git (ma credo un po’ tutti i sistemi simili) fa abbastanza schifo con i file binari, nel senso che le dimensioni del repository aumentano parecchio se ci sono molti file binari che vengono spesso modificati, andando a influenzare negativamente le prestazioni (mi pare di aver letto che anche semplici operazioni come la lettura del log diventano lente alla lunga, se ci sono file binari modificati frequentemente).

              La cosa più fastidiosa è che qualche mese fa su Github hanno avuto l’infelice idea di rimuovere il servizio di caricamento di file esterni al repository (accampando scuse secondo me abbastanza sciocche, ma tant’è). Al contrario, su Bitbucket e Sourceforge è ancora possibile caricare file extra. Ho menzionato questi due servizi nella guida proprio a questo proposito.

              Se vuoi posso caricare il PDF da qualche parte e mettere il link nel README, però vorrei eviterei di includere il PDF nel repository.

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                Elrond” post=86757Se vuoi posso caricare il PDF da qualche parte e mettere il link nel README, però vorrei eviterei di includere il PDF nel repository.

                Non ti preoccupare: ho già scaricato tutto. Non vedo perché dovrei chiedere a te di fare un lavoro extra quando lo posso fare io. Mi sembrava soltanto strano che mancasse proprio la guida, ma ora ho capito il motivo.

                Grazie

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                  [OT]

                  Vorrei segnalare che il link giusto per la classe guidatematica è:
                  https://github.com/GuITeX/guidatematica
                  e che, per compilare la guida a Git servono, oltre al file di classe, anche le due immagini in pdf presenti nella cartella della guida tematica.

                  Ciao

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                  Liverpool” post=86769[OT]

                  Vorrei segnalare che il link giusto per la classe guidatematica è:
                  https://github.com/GuITeX/guidatematica
                  e che, per compilare la guida a Git servono, oltre al file di classe, anche le due immagini in pdf presenti nella cartella della guida tematica.

                  Ciao

                  [/OT]

                  Grazie per la segnalazione, ho aggiornato il nome del repository della classe (è cambiato qualche mese fa) e aggiunto un link al PDF della guida 😀

                  Guarda l’aspetto positivo, ora che hai installato la classe [tt]guidatematica[/tt] puoi pensare di contribuire anche tu con qualche nuova guida 😉
                  Comunque nel repository della classe ci sono un Makefile e uno script batch (entrambi realizzati da Orlando Iovino) per automatizzare l’installazione della classe su tutti i principali sistemi operativi

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                    Elrond” post=86772

                    [OT]

                    Vorrei segnalare che il link giusto per la classe guidatematica è:
                    https://github.com/GuITeX/guidatematica
                    e che, per compilare la guida a Git servono, oltre al file di classe, anche le due immagini in pdf presenti nella cartella della guida tematica.

                    Ciao

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                    Grazie per la segnalazione, ho aggiornato il nome del repository della classe (è cambiato qualche mese fa) e aggiunto un link al PDF della guida 😀

                    Guarda l’aspetto positivo, ora che hai installato la classe [tt]guidatematica[/tt] puoi pensare di contribuire anche tu con qualche nuova guida 😉
                    Comunque nel repository della classe ci sono un Makefile e uno script batch (entrambi realizzati da Orlando Iovino) per automatizzare l’installazione della classe su tutti i principali sistemi operativi

                    Da quello che ricordo @Liverpool usa MikTeX e il file Makefile.bat va bene solo per TeX Live.

                    Ciao,
                    Orlando

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                    Liverpool
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                      ansys” post=86777Da quello che ricordo @Liverpool usa MikTeX e il file Makefile.bat va bene solo per TeX Live.

                      Sì. Uso MiKTeX e così com’è non funziona per via della posizione dell’albero locale (non ho provato). Comunque credo che basti specificare la posizione del mio albero locale e il resto dovrebbe andare lo stesso.

                      Ciao

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                      Oggi mi sono messo a rileggere l’Arte per la seconda volta (l’ultima versione) e mi è venuta voglia di provare arsclassica 🙂 … leggo la documentazione di classicthesis, quella di arsclassica divento un po’ matto per capire che pacchetti sono caricati, quali devo caricare, che opzioni sono obsolete e quali correggere rispetto a quelle suggerite nelle guide di cui sopra..insomma lavoro lavoro imparo imparo bella speranza di creare presto un mio piccolo pacchettino di stile con le opzioni che preferisco e che mi servono ma…ci sono due warnng che non riesco a togliere..ovviamente non voglio nemmeno pensare di modificare il pacchetto..così levo bibliografie, mi riduco all’osso ma ancora i warning..uff..cosa sto sbagliando? non ho nemmeno scritto nulla di che…e solo una prova dal titolo “ProvaArs” non può avere warning prima ancora di devinire gli ambienti per i teoremi accipicchia…in ogni modo, sveglio da più di 20 ore getto la spugna e vado a letto..ma non combino..possibile che nessuno si sia trovato questo problema e io sia l’unico che lo riproduce?..prendo il portatile e lo porto a letto con me …forum …”cerca” e comincio a scorrere i post..e mi trovo questo bel topic di illinguista1972 che riporta un errore astronomico…bene qui c’è tutto nel log e vedo cos’ha caricato così imparo..scorro il log e….

                      illinguista1972″ post=86425
                      Package hyperref Warning: Option `hyperfootnotes’ has already been used,
                      (hyperref) setting the option has no effect on input line 192.

                      Package hyperref Warning: Option `pdfpagelabels’ has already been used,
                      (hyperref) setting the option has no effect on input line 192.

                      ma…i miei due stesso warning 😮 😮 😮

                      ebbene dunque..non c’è speranza?! se anche l’arte ha warning devo costringermi ad accettarli (non che non li abbia mai avuti..anzi..li ho sempre..ma magari smetto di farmi il sangue acido per non riuscire a toglierli 🙂 )

                      bene, buona notte a tutti..ora collasso sul serio

                      ciao ciao

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                        Non ho voglia di provare ArsClassica e vedere se i woaning vengono anche a me, tuttavia ho un sospetto.
                        Ho il sospetto che scrreprt,ClassiThesis e ArsClassica messi insieme carichino il pacchetto più di una volta, o magari tu lo ricarichi ancora. Se i pacchetti vengono caricati cpiù volte con le stesse opzioni, non ci sono problemi, a se si ri-specificano le stesse opzioni più volte, escono quei warning; per altro se li leggi bene sono del tutto innocui, ma proprio li vuoi togliere devi vedere quante volte è stato caricato in totale il pacchetto hyperref, e quante volte ne sono state specificate le opzioni, magari mediante il comando separato [tt]\hypersetup{…}[/tt].

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