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23 Aprile 2013 alle 5:56 #85218::
Ho provato ad applicare l’impostazione tipografica di TesiClassica su un documento di cui ho, per adesso, inglobato l’abstract e la bibliografia.
In pratica non ho fatto altro che usare lo schema di TesiClassica inserendo sulla cartella di lavoro zzz, il file principale zoz.tex, impostazioni-tesi.tex e Bibliografia.bib, mentre nella subcartella zapping ho scritto i file abstract-only.tex e Bibliografia.tex.
Entrambi vengono richiamati dal main file zoz.
Succede però che in fase di compilazione (pdflatex zoz) mi appare questo warning:
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Package biblatex Warning: Please (re)run Biber on the file:
(biblatex) zoz
(biblatex) and rerun LaTeX afterwards.
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Che comando devo dare per il “rerun”? La compilazione, invece, fila liscia sulla cartella TesiClassica con pdflatex Tesi per cui è presumibile che io abbia omesso di trasferire qualcosa all’interno della cartella di lavoro zzz.
Nel pc ho installato Texlive 2012.
Grazie per l’aiuto
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23 Aprile 2013 alle 5:59 #85219::
lifetime” post=84633Ho provato ad applicare l’impostazione tipografica di TesiClassica su un documento di cui ho, per adesso, inglobato l’abstract e la bibliografia.
In pratica non ho fatto altro che usare lo schema di TesiClassica inserendo sulla cartella di lavoro zzz, il file principale zoz.tex, impostazioni-tesi.tex e Bibliografia.bib, mentre nella subcartella zapping ho scritto i file abstract-only.tex e Bibliografia.tex.
Entrambi vengono richiamati dal main file zoz.
Succede però che in fase di compilazione (pdflatex zoz) mi appare questo warning:
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Package biblatex Warning: Please (re)run Biber on the file:
(biblatex) zoz
(biblatex) and rerun LaTeX afterwards.
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Che comando devo dare per il “rerun”? La compilazione, invece, fila liscia sulla cartella TesiClassica con pdflatex Tesi per cui è presumibile che io abbia omesso di trasferire qualcosa all’interno della cartella di lavoro zzz.
Nel pc ho installato Texlive 2012.
Grazie per l’aiutoNon si capisce molto di quello che hai fatto. Ad ogni modo, devi semplicemente rilanciare Biber con il pulsante apposito del tuo editor, e poi lanciare nuovamente pdflatex sul documento principale.
Ciao
Tommaso
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23 Aprile 2013 alle 6:09 #85220::
Ma cosa c’entra l’editor? Io uso sempre i comandi da terminale, così:
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Grazie, comunque, della risposta. Lo stesso comando, invece, applicato alla cartella di TesiClassica … funziona!
Non capisco cosa … non hai capito!
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lifetime” post=84635Ma cosa c’entra l’editor? Io uso sempre i comandi da terminale, così:
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~$ cd Scr*/zzz
santino@santino2:~/Scrivania/zzz$ pdflatex zoz
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h, dutch, ukenglish, usenglishmax, esperanto, estonian, ethiopic, farsi, finnis
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ungarian, icelandic, assamese, bengali, gujarati, hindi, kannada, malayalam, ma
rathi, oriya, panjabi, tamil, telugu, indonesian, interlingua, irish, italian,
kurmanji, latin, latvian, lithuanian, mongolian, mongolianlmc, bokmal, nynorsk,
polish, portuguese, romanian, romansh, russian, sanskrit, serbian, serbianc, s
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Grazie, comunque, della risposta. Lo stesso comando, invece, applicato alla cartella di TesiClassica … funziona!
Non capisco cosa … non hai capito!Sei pieno di warning che puoi eliminare leggendo i messaggi nel log. La tua compilazione va a buon fine, non hai errori, mi sembra. Se lanci i comandi da terminale, allora basta rilanciare biber esattamente come lanci pdflatex.
Ciao
Tommaso
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23 Aprile 2013 alle 8:20 #85222::
Grazie Tommaso! Il tuo suggerimento ha funzionato. Infatti ho ottenuto questo output:
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~/Scrivania/zzz$ biber zoz
INFO – This is Biber 0.9.9
INFO – Logfile is 'zoz.blg'
INFO – Reading 'zoz.bcf'
INFO – Using all citekeys in bib section 0
INFO – Processing bib section 0
INFO – Looking for bibtex format file 'Bibliografia.bib' for section 0
INFO – Decoding LaTeX character macros into UTF-8
INFO – Finished Decoding LaTeX character macros into UTF-8
INFO – Found BibTeX data source 'Bibliografia.bib'
INFO – Sorting list 'MAIN' keys
INFO – No sort tailoring available for locale 'it_IT.UTF-8'
INFO – Sorting list 'SHORTHANDS' keys
INFO – No sort tailoring available for locale 'it_IT.UTF-8'
INFO – Writing 'zoz.bbl' with encoding 'UTF-8'
INFO – Output to zoz.bbl
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Quindi ho ridato due volte il comando pdflatex zoz e quello spezzone di documento è stato stampato correttamente.
Ciao e … alla prossima
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23 Aprile 2013 alle 8:46 #85223::
lifetime” post=84646Grazie Tommaso! Il tuo suggerimento ha funzionato. Infatti ho ottenuto questo output:
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~/Scrivania/zzz$ biber zoz
INFO – This is Biber 0.9.9
INFO – Logfile is 'zoz.blg'
INFO – Reading 'zoz.bcf'
INFO – Using all citekeys in bib section 0
INFO – Processing bib section 0
INFO – Looking for bibtex format file 'Bibliografia.bib' for section 0
INFO – Decoding LaTeX character macros into UTF-8
INFO – Finished Decoding LaTeX character macros into UTF-8
INFO – Found BibTeX data source 'Bibliografia.bib'
INFO – Sorting list 'MAIN' keys
INFO – No sort tailoring available for locale 'it_IT.UTF-8'
INFO – Sorting list 'SHORTHANDS' keys
INFO – No sort tailoring available for locale 'it_IT.UTF-8'
INFO – Writing 'zoz.bbl' with encoding 'UTF-8'
INFO – Output to zoz.bbl
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Quindi ho ridato due volte il comando pdflatex zoz e quello spezzone di documento è stato stampato correttamente.
Ciao e … alla prossimaBene, questo messaggio di Biber è corretto. Occhio, però: la versione di Biber è molto vecchia, ora siamo alla 1.5 per biblatex 2.5. Forse è il caso di aggiornare la tua distribuzione.
Un altro consiglio non richiesto: i modelli di tesi classica e moderna danno il meglio di sé così come sono e non applicati ad altri documenti. Ma vedi tu 🙂
Ciao
Tommaso
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23 Aprile 2013 alle 15:14 #85224::
Grazie, Tommaso, dei consigli, ma adesso me ne serve uno specifico per aggiornare Biber.
In dettaglio ho trovato sul web la seguente sequenza di comandi, potresti dirmi se vanno bene?
I due file gzippati menzionati in 1.. e 2.. li ho già scaricati. Ciao
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1.. From SourceForge download biber v.1.5 (http://sourceforge.net/projects/biblatex-biber/)
2.. From SourceForge download biblatex v.2.6. (http://sourceforge.net/projects/biblatex/)
3.. Create two temp dirs: mkdir tempbb && mkdir tempbl
4.. Uncompress biber-linux_x86_32.tar.gz to the temp directory: tar -zxvf biber-linux_x86_32.tar.gz -C tempbb/
5.. Uncompress biblatex-2.6.tds.tgz to the temp directory: tar -zxvf biblatex-2.6.tds.tgz -C tempbl/
6.. Move the contents of the files in the tempbb temp directory to /usr/local/texlive/2012/texmf-dist/ thus: sudo rsync -azvv tempbl/ /usr/local/texlive/2012/texmf-dist/
7.. Move the biber bin from your temp directory to /usr/local/texlive/2012/texmf-dist/ thus: sudo rsync -azvv tempbl/ /usr/local/texlive/2012/bin/i386-linux/
8.. Test that everything is working fine.
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23 Aprile 2013 alle 15:43 #85225::
Non so da dov tu abbia scaricato quei comandi, i quali istigano a delinquere, pperché modificano o cercano di modificare senza l’autorizzazione di root o super user le cartelle della distribuzione ufficiale.Ora non ho ben capito o non ricordo bene se ha detto quale distribuzione di TeXLive usi, se sia la versione Debian o se sia la versione ufficiale.
Se usi la versione Debian allora il tuo updater dovrebbe avere i nomi dei file deb da installare con apt-get.
Se usi la TeXLive ufficiale allora disponi del programma (volendo con interfaccia grafica) tlmgr (che è il solito acronimo di TeX Live ManaGeR) che ti permette di aggiornare alla situazione di fine marzo 2013 la distribuzione ufficiale (ora gli aggiornamenti osno congelati perché stanno confezionando la versione ufficiale del 2013).Il problema che credo tu abbia, ma naturalmente posso sbagliarmi, è che hai una installazione Debian di TeX Live; questa diistribuzione, anche se porta la data del 2012, non è la data officiale, perché il consorzio Debian ci mette solitamente un apio d’anni a validare TeX Live, e quindi la distribuzione TL/Debaian è sempre in ritardo di un paio d’anni rispetto alla distribuzione ufficiale.
Ora questo è un momento infausto per eseguire una installazione ufficiale accanto alla Debian, perché la distribuzione Debian ha bisogno di quella versione er soddisfare le dipendenze dialtri pacchetti Debian. Ci sono due modi per superare questa impasse:
1) installare la versione ufficiale seguendo le indicazioni contenute nel documento texliveubuntu.pdf che non vale solo per Ubunto ma anche per altre versioni Debian; nell’eseguire le istruzioni contenute in quel documento adatta i comandi alla tua aprticolare incarnazione di Linux e ricordati di cambaire le date spostando il 2012 al 2013 e il 2011 al 2012. Per il resto non cambia quasi niente.
2) cerca sul forum; esistono delle vie per disinstallare la versione TL/Debian e inserire una aggiunta ai file che contengono i pacchetti installati, aggiunta che serve per far credere a Debian di avere a bordo la TL/Debian, mentre tu, invece, installai la TL/ufficiale.Complicato; be sì, un po’; la complicazione nasce dal fatto che esistono diverse versioni di Linux (alcune centinaia) e che è difficile dare indicazioni valide per tutte queste varianti di Linux.
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Ciao OldClaudio. Ecco la mia versione di Texlive:
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1.. Ho scaricato da questo link
http://ftp.uniroma2.it/TeX/systems/texlive/Images/
il file texlive2012-20120701.iso (01-Jul-2012 18:25), 2.2Gb2.. Scaricato pure il file checksum
texlive2012-20120701.iso.md5
f604593b7f1a888d480e40b85cf26ed5 texlive2012-20120701.iso
`Per installare l’aggiornamento di Biber, accetto i suggerimenti del forum. GraziePS: S.O. Ubuntu 11.04
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23 Aprile 2013 alle 19:27 #85227::
E allora se hai una TeX Live ufficiale, hai anche tlmgr con il quale poi aggirnare non solo biber e biblatex, ma l’intera distribuzione, e, poiche hai scaricato l’ISO del 1º lglio 2012, spero che tu non ti sia scordato di aggiornala in questi 8 mesi, perché se non l’hai fatto (con tlmgr, naturalmente, hai un migliaio di aggiornamenti da installare…:shock: 😯 😯
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lifetime” post=84673Ciao OldClaudio. Ecco la mia versione di Texlive:
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1.. Ho scaricato da questo link
http://ftp.uniroma2.it/TeX/systems/texlive/Images/
il file texlive2012-20120701.iso (01-Jul-2012 18:25), 2.2Gb2.. Scaricato pure il file checksum
texlive2012-20120701.iso.md5
f604593b7f1a888d480e40b85cf26ed5 texlive2012-20120701.iso
`Per installare l’aggiornamento di Biber, accetto i suggerimenti del forum. GraziePS: S.O. Ubuntu 11.04
È sufficiente installare TeXlive e aggiornarla, biber e bilatex saranno così automaticamente aggiornati.
Saluti
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24 Aprile 2013 alle 5:45 #85230::
alegenn” post=84685È sufficiente installare TeXlive e aggiornarla, biber e bilatex saranno così automaticamente aggiornati.
Parli di una nuova versione di Texlive? Io ho trovato questo:
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~# tlmgr update -all
TeX Live 2012 is frozen forever and will no
longer be updated. This happens in preparation for a new release.
If you're interested in helping to pretest the new release (when
pretests are available), please read http://tug.org/texlive/pretest.html.
Otherwise, just wait, and the new release will be ready in due time.
`Quindi, non mi resta che aspettare. O no? Ciao e grazie
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24 Aprile 2013 alle 7:50 #85231::
lifetime” post=84686
È sufficiente installare TeXlive e aggiornarla, biber e bilatex saranno così automaticamente aggiornati.
Parli di una nuova versione di Texlive? Io ho trovato questo:
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~# tlmgr update -all
TeX Live 2012 is frozen forever and will no
longer be updated. This happens in preparation for a new release.
If you're interested in helping to pretest the new release (when
pretests are available), please read http://tug.org/texlive/pretest.html.
Otherwise, just wait, and the new release will be ready in due time.
`Quindi, non mi resta che aspettare. O no? Ciao e grazieSe digiti [tt]texdoc biber[/tt] sul tuo terminale potrai leggere la documentazione di biber, e vedrai che è aggiornata alla versione 1.5, successivi aggiornamenti verranno rilasciati tra qualche mese, a patto di installare TeXlive 2013.
Ciao
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24 Aprile 2013 alle 8:05 #85232
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lifetime” post=84686
È sufficiente installare TeXlive e aggiornarla, biber e bilatex saranno così automaticamente aggiornati.
Parli di una nuova versione di Texlive? Io ho trovato questo:
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~# tlmgr update -all
TeX Live 2012 is frozen forever and will no
longer be updated. This happens in preparation for a new release.
If you're interested in helping to pretest the new release (when
pretests are available), please read http://tug.org/texlive/pretest.html.
Otherwise, just wait, and the new release will be ready in due time.
`Quindi, non mi resta che aspettare. O no? Ciao e grazieQuesto è il messaggio dii default in questo periodo che costituisce una specie di limbo fra l’edizione del 2012 e quela del 2013.
Tuttavia, se i tuoi pacchetti non erano aggiornati al giorno del 31 marzo, quando la distribuzione è stata congelata, tlmgr continua bellamente a funzionare per aggiornare pacchetti più vecchi fino, almeno a portare gli aggiornamenti alla data del 31 marzo.
Se prima del 31 marzo biber ha avuto aggiornamenti, se biblatex ha avuto aggiornamenti quel programma e quel pacchetto verrano portati alla situazione stabile di fine marzo.
Poi a luglio tutti riaggiorneremo re-installando la nuova versione completa; è sempre un’oretta spesa bene 🙂
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Sì, ho appena iniziato il saving backups
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tlmgr: package repository http://ftp.uniRoma2.it/TeX/systems/texlive/tlnet
tlmgr: saving backups to /usr/local/texlive/2012/tlpkg/backups
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`ma penso mi ci vorrà più di un’ora per gli aggiornamenti essendo il repo spesso intasato. Non importa! Ciao
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24 Aprile 2013 alle 12:31 #85235::
Be’ vedo che hai 630 pacchetti da aggiornare; non ero andato tanto lontano nel pronosticare un migliaio di pacchetti.Poi tieni presente che il mirror da cui stai scricando, Roma 2, se non ricordo male, brilla per la sua lentezza. Il mirror italiano di bologna, quello del Garr, è decisamente meglio. Ma i mirror stranieri sono equipaggiati meglio anche rispetto a Bologna.
Io da Torino sarei abbastanza viciono se mi connettessi a bologna,; invece mi connetto al mirror olandese http://archive.cs.uu.nl/mirror/CTAN/systems/texlive/tlnet e ci metto metà del tempo rispetto a Bologna.
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24 Aprile 2013 alle 14:43 #85236::
Aggiornamento effettuato in 02:11:31, più un’altra quindicina di minuti per le configurazioni. Adesso il biber è updated, eccolo (con qualche warning che prima non c’era, ma la pagina della bibliografia è stampata correttamente):
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$ biber zoz
INFO – This is Biber 1.5
INFO – Logfile is 'zoz.blg'
INFO – Reading 'zoz.bcf'
INFO – Using all citekeys in bib section 0
INFO – Processing section 0
INFO – Looking for bibtex format file 'Bibliografia.bib' for section 0
Use of uninitialized value in string eq at Biber/Input/file/bibtex.pm line 108.
Use of uninitialized value in string eq at Biber/Input/file/bibtex.pm line 112.
Use of uninitialized value in string eq at Biber/Input/file/bibtex.pm line 116.
INFO – Decoding LaTeX character macros into UTF-8
INFO – Found BibTeX data source 'Bibliografia.bib'
INFO – Overriding locale 'it_IT.UTF-8' default tailoring 'variable = shifted' with 'variable = non-ignorable'
INFO – Sorting 'entry' list 'nyt' keys
INFO – No sort tailoring available for locale 'it_IT.UTF-8'
INFO – Writing 'zoz.bbl' with encoding 'UTF-8'
INFO – Output to zoz.bbl
`Ciao, e alla prossima
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