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16 Novembre 2019 alle 13:52 in risposta a: Suftesi: spazio superfluo prima del comando \greco{} #11671316 Novembre 2019 alle 13:49 in risposta a: Suftesi: spazio superfluo prima del comando \greco{} #116712::
@OldClaudio
Ottimo, allora è evidente che c’è qualche problema nel mio computer. Cosa posso fare?:? Provo a reinstallare tutto?
@letteracdp
come si fa ad aggiornare questo «patch level»?Grazie,
gregorius
15 Novembre 2019 alle 21:54 in risposta a: Suftesi: spazio superfluo prima del comando \greco{} #116708::
Ivan e OldClaudio, Vi ringrazio per il prezioso aiuto.Ho realizzato un EMC con la classe article e il risultato è lo stesso, quindi effettivamente il problema non riguarda suftesi ma qualcosa nel mio Mac!…
Ecco l’esempio:
`% !TEX encoding = UTF-8 Unicode
% !TEX TS-program = XeLaTeX
\documentclass[a4paper,11pt]{article}
\usepackage{fontspec}
\setmainfont[%
Ligatures={TeX
%,Historic, Rare
}
]{ArnoPro-Caption}
\usepackage{polyglossia}
\setmainlanguage{italian}
\setotherlanguage{german}
\setotherlanguage[variant=ancient]{greek}
\newfontfamily\greekfont[Script=Greek, Ligatures={TeX%,Historic, Rare%
}]{ArnoPro-Caption}
\providecommand\Greco{}\providecommand\greco{}
\renewcommand\greco[1]{\textgreek[variant=ancient]{#1}}
\renewcommand\Greco[1]{\begin{greek}[variant=ancient]#1\end{greek}}\begin{document}
(\greco{ἄνδρα μοι κτλ.})(\textgreek{ἄνδρα μοι κτλ.})
(ἄνδρα)
(\Greco{Ἄνδρα μοι ἔννεπε κτλ.})
\end{document}`[attachment=2336]Senza-nomesdgsd.pdf[/attachment]
Poi, ho provato a compilare il codice di OldClaudio, ed il risultato è identico, come risulta dal file pdf frutto della compilazione:
[attachment=2335]Senza-nome123_2019-11-15.pdf[/attachment]
Posso provare a disinstallare e a reinstallare MacTex e/o TexStudio? Tra l’altro, quando voglio compilare con TexStudio mi appare il seguente messaggio:
texstudio Il documento xyz vuole sovrascrivere il comando “quick” con “XeLaTeX”.
Non ho idea di cosa sia, ma se rifiuto mi dà errore. Compilando invece dal menu a tendina il messaggio non appare più. Che pensare?
Grazie ancóra,
gregorius
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You must be logged in to view attached files.14 Novembre 2019 alle 18:22 in risposta a: Suftesi: spazio superfluo prima del comando \greco{} #116705::
Buona sera! Il problema che avevo segnalato persiste ancóra, ma… se ne sono aggiunti altri due, che penso possano essere collegati al primo. Anzitutto, ormai lo spazio superfluo che notavo nelle parentesi me lo ritrovo ovunque: ad es., se scrivo: la dottrina del \greco{λόγος}, otterrò “la dottrina del λόγος”.
Inoltre, quando una riga di greco è troppo lunga, il sistema non va a capo automaticamente, ma dispone il testo di séguito oltre i margini. Mi sembra tutto molto strano, come se ci fossero dei problemi con il riconoscimento della lingua. Mi stavo chiedendo se il problema non fosse nel mio preambolo: posso sottoporlo alla Vostra attenzione?
Ecco il codice:`% !TEX encoding = UTF-8 Unicode
% !TEX TS-program = xelatex
% !TEX root = tesi.tex
% !BIB TS-program = biber\documentclass[
11pt,
%structure=book,
pagelayout=periodicalaureo,
version=cscreen,
style=smallcaps1,
liststyle=indented,
chapnumstyle=dotarabic,
tocstyle=leftpage,
tocchapfont=smallcaps,
titlefont=smallcaps,
chapfont=smallcaps,
secfont=smallcaps,
subsecfont=italic,
footnotestyle=superscript,
defaultfont=none,
greekfont=none,
%…other options
]{suftesi}
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\usepackage{polyglossia}
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\usepackage{multirow}
\usepackage{tabularx}
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\usepackage{titlesec}
\titleformat{\paragraph}[runin]{\normalfont\bfseries}{\theparagraph.}{}{}[:]
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}]{ArnoPro-Caption}
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}]{ArnoPro-Caption}
% \newcommand{\greco}[1]{\begin{greek}[variant=ancient]#1\end{greek}}
\newcommand{\greco}[1]{\begin{otherlanguage*}{greek}#1\end{otherlanguage*}}
%\newcommand\greco[1]{\textgreek[variant=ancient]{#1}}
\setotherlanguage{german}
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%\renewcommand{\footnotemargin}{0.2cm}
%\deffootnote[0em]{0em}{0em}{%
% \textsuperscript{\makebox[0em][r]{\thefootnotemark\ }}}
% Bibliografia
\usepackage[style=italian]{csquotes}
%\usepackage[italian=guillemets]{csquotes}
%\usepackage[style=philosophy-modern, backend=biber]{biblatex}
\usepackage[backend=biber, style=philosophy-modern, classical=true, firstinits=true, autopunct=false, relatedformat=brackets, scauthors=false, scauthorsbib=false,scauthorscite=false, inbeforejournal=true, origfields=origed, shorthandintro=false, latinemph=true%
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\renewcommand*{\finalnamedelim}{-}
\DefineBibliographyStrings{italian}{%
editor = {ed\adddot},
editors = {ed\adddot},
}
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{\cite}{\multicitedelim}
\DeclareMultiCiteCommand{\parencites}[\mkbibparens]%
{\parencite}{\multicitedelim}
\DeclareMultiCiteCommand{\footcites}[\mkbibfootnote]%
{\footcite}{\multicitedelim}% Frontespizio
% Serve il permesso dell’istituzione
% per l’uso del logo:
%\usepackage[suftesi]{frontespizio}
% altrimenti usa:
% \usepackage{frontespizio}
%
% Immagini e tabelle
%\usepackage{graphicx}
% \graphicspath{{immagini/}}
%\usepackage{booktabs}
% Riferimenti incrociati
%\usepackage{hyperref}
% va caricato per ultimo!
%\usepackage{xunicode}
%\usepackage{bidi}
% Dati per colophon e testatine
\author{Zio Paperone}
\title{I racconti di Paperopoli}
\date{}%\newcommand{\greco}[1]{\begin{otherlanguage*}{greek}#1\end{otherlanguage*}}
%————————————————–
%
% INIZIA IL DOCUMENTO
%
%————————————————–\begin{document}
%———————————————-
\bookcolophon{All right reserved}{Typeset with \LaTeX{} with the \textsf{suftesi} class by Ivan Valbusa.\\
The text face is Arno Pro.%\\
%Cover design by Ivan Valbusa.
}\maketitle
\maketitle
\input{a}
\input{b}
%———————————————
% Bibliografia
%
%\phantomsection % solo con hyperref
\printshorthands
\printbibliography
\tableofcontents
%************************
% Colophon
%************************
%This colophon is redundant if you put
% these informations in the back of the title page
\cleardoublepage
\finalcolophon{This work has been typeset with \LaTeX{}
using the \textsf{suftesi} class by Ivan Valbusa.
}
\end{document} `Grazie e scusatemi per il disturbo e gli eventuali errori presenti nel preambolo,
gregorius
6 Novembre 2019 alle 22:18 in risposta a: Suftesi: spazio superfluo prima del comando \greco{} #116704::
Ahimè, purtroppo non va neanche così… tutto invariato. Ci deve essere qualche problema con il comando \greco, al quale il sistema premette uno spazio. È molto strano: tutto è iniziato una settimana fa dopo un aggiornamento…
In ogni caso, grazie di tutto. Se ci sono novità (o se, tra qualche settimana, non ce ne fossero ancora), ne do notizia qui.
gregorius
5 Novembre 2019 alle 22:15 in risposta a: Suftesi: spazio superfluo prima del comando \greco{} #116702::
Buonasera! Allora, purtroppo il risultato non è cambiato… Ho provato anche sul portatile (sempre un Mac), invano. Ma, visto che con \begin{greek}…\end{greek} l’anomalia scompare, non si potrebbe integrare all’interno del comando \greco{}?
Grazie ancóra di tutto, soprattutto per la tua pazienza.
gregorius
4 Novembre 2019 alle 22:04 in risposta a: Suftesi: spazio superfluo prima del comando \greco{} #116700::
Mamma mia, non immaginavo che sarebbe stata così difficile… Ti ringrazio ancora. Ecco il link del file log, comunque immenso anche escludendo le prime 848 righe (!):
https://www.dropbox.com/s/pdccwjsgy9j5qpo/log.tex?dl=0
4 Novembre 2019 alle 10:15 in risposta a: Suftesi: spazio superfluo prima del comando \greco{} #116698::
Come non detto, l’allegato non va. Copio il contenuto come codice:`This is XeTeX, Version 3.14159265-2.6-0.999991 (TeX Live 2019) (preloaded format=xelatex 2019.10.16) 4 NOV 2019 12:03
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> {italian/lcscript} => {latin}
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> {italian/indentfirst} => {true}
> {italian/fontsetup} => {true}
> {italian/envname} => {italian}
> {italian/babelname} => {italian}
> {italian/localnumeral} => {polyglossia@C@localnumeral}
> {italian/Localnumeral} => {polyglossia@C@localnumeral}
> {greek/script} => {Greek}
> {greek/lcscript} => {greek}
> {greek/scripttag} => {grek}
> {greek/language} => {Greek}
> {greek/langtag} => {ELL}
> {greek/hyphennames} => {}
> {greek/direction} => {LR}
> {greek/hyphenmins} => {2,3}
> {greek/frenchspacing} => {true}
> {greek/indentfirst} => {true}
> {greek/fontsetup} => {true}
> {greek/envname} => {greek}
> {greek/babelname} => {greek}
> {greek/localnumeral} => {greeknumerals}
> {greek/Localnumeral} => {Greeknumerals}.
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4 Novembre 2019 alle 10:12 in risposta a: Suftesi: spazio superfluo prima del comando \greco{} #116697::
Sì, è vero, preoccupato di fornire un EMC, non ho pensato di fornire anche altre informazioni. Compilo con xelatex utilizzando TeXShop ed ho una distribuzione MacTeX. L’allegato del file log. sembra andare. Comunque, ho notato che, utilizzando \begin{greek}…\end{greek} il problema scompare! Quindi c’è una speranza?:-) Magari modificando le impostazioni del comando \greco?
In ogni caso, grazie sempre
gregorius[attachment]C:\fakepath\document.log[/attachment]
3 Novembre 2019 alle 21:32 in risposta a: Suftesi: spazio superfluo prima del comando \greco{} #116695::
Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa… 😳 culpa invero anche della stanchezza. In ogni caso mi scuso e ti ringrazio per la tirata di orecchi.Ho corretto il file, ma… il risultato è identico! Quid faciam? 😕 😕 😕
`% !TEX encoding = UTF-8 Unicode
% !TEX TS-program = xelatex\documentclass[11pt]{suftesi}
\usepackage{fontspec}
\usepackage{polyglossia}
\setmainlanguage{italian}
\setmainfont[Ligatures={TeX}]{ArnoPro-Caption}
\setotherlanguage[variant=ancient]{greek}
\newfontfamily{\greekfont}
{ArnoPro-Caption}
%\newcommand{\greco}[1]{%
% \begin{otherlanguage*}{greek}#1\end{otherlanguage*}}
\newcommand\greco[1]{\textgreek[variant=ancient]{#1}}\begin{document}
(\greco{Ἄνδρα μοι ἔννεπε κτλ.})(\greco{ἄνδρα})
(\textgreek{ἄνδρα})
(ἄνδρα)
\end{document}
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You must be logged in to view attached files.3 Novembre 2019 alle 18:52 in risposta a: Suftesi: spazio superfluo prima del comando \greco{} #116693::
Ti ringrazio molto per il tempo che mi hai dedicato e mi scuso in anticipo se, da quanto scriverò, risulterà che non ho capito bene.
Modificando il comando in `\newcommand\greco[1]{\textgreek[variant-ancient]{#1}}`, lo spazio dopo la parentesi aumenta ancora di più… Inoltre, se scrivo ἄνδρα fra parentesi senza il comando \greco il problema non si presenta…
Il primo allegato fa riferimento a questo codice:`% !TEX encoding = UTF-8 Unicode
% !TEX TS-program = xelatex\documentclass[11pt]{suftesi}
\usepackage{fontspec}
\usepackage{polyglossia}
\setmainlanguage{italian}
\setmainfont[Ligatures={TeX}]{ArnoPro-Caption}
\setotherlanguage[variant=ancient]{greek}
\newfontfamily{\greekfont}
{ArnoPro-Caption}
\newcommand{\greco}[1]{%
\begin{otherlanguage*}{greek}#1\end{otherlanguage*}}
%\newcommand\greco{\textgreek[variant=ancient]}
\begin{document}
(\greco{Ἄνδρα μοι ἔννεπε κτλ.})(\greco{ἄνδρα})
(\textgreek{ἄνδρα})
(ἄνδρα)
\end{document}
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[attachment=2325]document_2019-11-03.pdf[/attachment]Il secondo a questo:
`% !TEX encoding = UTF-8 Unicode
% !TEX TS-program = xelatex\documentclass[11pt]{suftesi}
\usepackage{fontspec}
\usepackage{polyglossia}
\setmainlanguage{italian}
\setmainfont[Ligatures={TeX}]{ArnoPro-Caption}
\setotherlanguage[variant=ancient]{greek}
\newfontfamily{\greekfont}
{ArnoPro-Caption}
%\newcommand{\greco}[1]{%
% \begin{otherlanguage*}{greek}#1\end{otherlanguage*}}
\newcommand\greco{\textgreek[variant=ancient]}
\begin{document}
(\greco{Ἄνδρα μοι ἔννεπε κτλ.})(\greco{ἄνδρα})
(\textgreek{ἄνδρα})
(ἄνδρα)
\end{document}
`
[attachment=2326]document_2019-11-03-2.pdf[/attachment]Mi scuso ancóra e spero in una soluzione, perché il mio tutor è molto infastidito da questo spazio…
gregorius
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Buona sera a tutti!
Chiedo scusa per la mia scomparsa: ero fuori per un convegno e non avevo la possibilità di rispondere.
Con il comando \let\breve\undefined il sistema restituiva degli errori, mentre la soluzione di inserire direttamente i simboli metrici tramite le codifiche indicate nel link sembra più pratica. Ho fatto un rapido tentativo, ma il risultato negativo deve verisimilmente esser dovuto al fondo che adopero, Arno Pro, che evidentemente non supporta questo tipo di simboli. Proverò al più presto con un altro font.
Grazie a tutti per la disponibilità e per l’aiuto!
gregorius
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