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  • 8 Aprile 2013 alle 17:56 in risposta a: Font ottici #84522
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      Samiel, come te lo devo dire: pdftex.map non ha nulla a che vedere con Xe(La)Tex.

      Ops, rimandato a settembre! 🙁
      Non so quale mossa io possa aver fatto per avere due pdflatex.map, adesso vedo se sono uguali.

      Cmq con Xelatex l’utilizzo delle diverse font size è in definitiva semplice.
      Più complesso, o meglio farraginoso, mi pare con pdflatex, per il quale
      si dovrebbe credo approntare una serie di dichirazioni come questa, trovata in rete
      `\DeclareFontFamily{T1}{lmr}{}
      \DeclareFontShape{T1}{lmr}{m}{n}{<->ec-lmr17}{}
      \DeclareFontShape{T1}{lmr}{m}{sl}{<->ec-lmro17}{}
      \DeclareFontShape{T1}{lmr}{m}{it}{<->ec-lmri12}{}
      \DeclareFontShape{T1}{lmr}{m}{sc}{<->ec-lmcsc10}{}
      \DeclareFontShape{T1}{lmr}{bx}{n}{<->ec-lmbx12}{}
      \DeclareFontShape{T1}{lmr}{bx}{it}{<->ec-lmbxi10}{}
      \DeclareFontShape{T1}{lmr}{bx}{sl}{<->ec-lmbxo10}{}`

      m

      8 Aprile 2013 alle 12:38 in risposta a: Font ottici #84520
      samiel
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        Ci sono!
        `\documentclass[a4paper]{article}
        \usepackage{fontspec}
        \setmainfont[SizeFeatures={%
        {Size={-8.4},Font=* Caption},
        {Size={8.41-13.0},Font=*},
        {Size={13.01-19.9},Font=* Subhead},
        {Size={19.91-},Font=* Display}
        }]{Minion Pro}

        \usepackage{polyglossia}
        \setmainlanguage{italian}
        \begin{document}

        {\fontsize{4}{8}\selectfont Testo piccolo: CAPTION\par}

        {\fontsize{12}{24}\selectfont Testo normale: TEXT\par}

        {\fontsize{16}{32}\selectfont Testo grande: SUBHEAD\par}

        {\fontsize{36}{48}\selectfont Testo grandissimo: DISPLAY\par}

        \end{document}`
        È necessario richiedere a fontspec di usare corpi diversi, ma la cosa funziona.
        Nelal fattispecie, ho usato le misure indicate dalla stessa Adobe per il Minion:
        http://store1.adobe.com/cfusion/store/html/index.cfm?store=OLS-US&event=displayFontPackage&code=1721
        Infatti, guardando le proprietà del pdf generato trovo:
        `samiel@debian:~/guide_latex/xetex$ pdffonts opticalsize.pdf
        name type emb sub uni object ID
        ———————————— —————– — — — ———
        AVZBDA+MinionPro-Capt-Identity-H CID Type 0C yes yes yes 5 0
        WSDHXQ+MinionPro-Subh-Identity-H CID Type 0C yes yes yes 7 0
        RNQPRZ+MinionPro-Disp-Identity-H CID Type 0C yes yes yes 9 0
        `
        Non capisco bene come mai non sia indicato il carattere di default.
        Ne viene forse omessa la menzione in quanto tale?

        Mi lascia tuttavia un po’ perplesso un passo del manuale di fonspec (8.6) che recita:

        OpenType fonts with optical scaling will exist in several discrete sizes, and these will
        be selected by XETEX and LuaTEX automatically determined by the current font size as in
        Example 16, in which we’ve scaled down some large text in order to be able to compare the
        difference for equivalent font sizes.
        The OpticalSize option may be used to specify a different optical size. With OpticalSize
        set to zero, no optical size font substitution is performed, as shown in Example 17.

        perché se non preciso le misure, almeno nel pdf risultante non vedo usati i vari corpi

        PS
        Mi resta il dubbio esposto nel post precedente:
        normale avere due pdftex.map?

        m

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        8 Aprile 2013 alle 9:39 in risposta a: Font ottici #84519
        samiel
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          Innanzitutto:
          `root@debian:~# locate pdftex.map
          /usr/local/texlive/2012/texmf/fonts/map/pdftex/updmap/pdftex.map
          /usr/local/texlive/2012/texmf-var/fonts/map/pdftex/updmap/pdftex.map`
          Normale avere due pdftex.map?

          Iin ogni caso dentro ci sono tutti i Minion nei vari tipi (Caption ecc)
          Ho cancellato l’installazione precedente che mi dava qualche problema.
          La cosa (per me) un po’ strana rispetto ai font ottici precedenti
          è cha ll’inizio della compilazione appare:
          `root@debian:/usr/local/texlive/texmf-local/fonts/source/MinionPro# autoinst -target=/usr/local/texlive/texmf-local *.otf
          [WARNING] I've parsed both MinionPro-BoldCapt.otf
          and MinionPro-BoldDisp.otf as

          Family: MinionPro
          Width: regular
          Weight: bold
          Shape: roman
          Size: 8.4-13

          [WARNING] I've parsed both MinionPro-BoldItCapt.otf
          and MinionPro-BoldItDisp.otf as

          Family: MinionPro
          Width: regular
          Weight: bold
          Shape: italic
          Size: 8.4-13

          [WARNING] I've parsed both MinionPro-BoldItCapt.otf
          and MinionPro-BoldIt.otf as

          Family: MinionPro
          Width: regular
          Weight: bold
          Shape: italic
          Size: 8.4-13
          .
          .
          .
          [WARNING] I failed to parse all fonts in a unique way, so I will split
          your font family into multiple subfamilies and try again:

          MinionPro, MinionProCaption, MinionProDisplay, MinionProSubhead`
          e via dicendo. Di conseguenza vengono prodotti quattro distinti file di map,
          e non uno solo e unitario come per gli altri caratteri ottici che ho installato,
          (tutti disponibili nei quattro tipi normale, Caption, Display, Subhead) e cioè
          MinionPro.map, MinioProCaption.Map ecc. In pdftex.map comunque
          trovo tutto. A questo punto ho ricompilato l’esempio, ottenendo
          un diverso output. Riporto il file di log (scusandomi per la lunghezza):
          `This is XeTeX, Version 3.1415926-2.4-0.9998 (TeX Live 2012) (format=xelatex 2013.2.22) 8 APR 2013 13:25
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          . <->“Minion Pro/I/ICU:script=latn;language=DFLT;+smcp;”
          .
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          . <->“Minion Pro/BI/ICU:script=latn;language=DFLT;”
          .
          . * 'bold italic small caps' with NFSS spec.:
          . <->“Minion Pro/BI/ICU:script=latn;language=DFLT;+smcp;”
          ………………………………………….

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          ))
          (./wwwww.aux)
          \openout1 = `wwwww.aux'.

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          File: t3cmr.fd 2001/12/31 TIPA font definitions
          )
          LaTeX Font Info: … okay on input line 8.
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          .
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          LaTeX Font Info: Overwriting math alphabet `\mathbf' in version `normal'
          (Font) OT1/cmr/bx/n –> EU1/MinionPro(0)/bx/n on input line 8.

          LaTeX Font Info: Overwriting math alphabet `\mathsf' in version `normal'
          (Font) OT1/cmss/m/n –> EU1/lmss/m/n on input line 8.
          LaTeX Font Info: Overwriting math alphabet `\mathtt' in version `normal'
          (Font) OT1/cmtt/m/n –> EU1/lmtt/m/n on input line 8.
          LaTeX Font Info: Overwriting symbol font `operators' in version `bold'
          (Font) EU1/MinionPro(0)/m/n –> EU1/MinionPro(0)/bx/n on input
          line 8.
          LaTeX Font Info: Overwriting math alphabet `\mathrm' in version `bold'
          (Font) EU1/MinionPro(0)/m/n –> EU1/MinionPro(0)/bx/n on input
          line 8.
          LaTeX Font Info: Overwriting math alphabet `\mathit' in version `bold'
          (Font) OT1/cmr/bx/it –> EU1/MinionPro(0)/bx/it on input line
          8.
          LaTeX Font Info: Overwriting math alphabet `\mathsf' in version `bold'
          (Font) OT1/cmss/bx/n –> EU1/lmss/bx/n on input line 8.
          LaTeX Font Info: Overwriting math alphabet `\mathtt' in version `bold'
          (Font) OT1/cmtt/m/n –> EU1/lmtt/bx/n on input line 8.
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          Package microtype Info: Character protrusion enabled (level 2).
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          Package microtype Info: No adjustment of tracking.
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          Package microtype Info: Loading generic settings for font family
          (microtype) `MinionPro' (encoding: EU1).
          (microtype) For optimal results, create family-specific settings.
          (microtype) See the microtype manual for details.
          LaTeX Font Info: External font `cmex10' loaded for size
          (Font) <7> on input line 18.
          LaTeX Font Info: External font `cmex10' loaded for size
          (Font) <5> on input line 18.

          (/usr/local/texlive/2012/texmf-dist/tex/latex/microtype/mt-cmr.cfg
          File: mt-cmr.cfg 2011/04/09 v2.1 microtype config. file: Computer Modern Roman
          (RS)
          ) [1

          ]
          (./wwwww.aux) )
          Here is how much of TeX's memory you used:
          15771 strings out of 493994
          341634 string characters out of 3150335
          364690 words of memory out of 3000000
          18900 multiletter control sequences out of 15000+200000
          4090 words of font info for 34 fonts, out of 3000000 for 9000
          1144 hyphenation exceptions out of 8191
          46i,7n,51p,821b,251s stack positions out of 5000i,500n,10000p,200000b,50000s

          Output written on wwwww.pdf (1 page).`
          Il precedente messaggio sulla scalatura del font è scomparso,
          ma non so interpretare questo log per capire se vengono usati
          i vari tipi di carattere per le diverse dimensioni

          m

          7 Aprile 2013 alle 19:55 in risposta a: Doppia versione dei pacchetti installati(TeXLive2012/Ubuntu) #84364
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            Togli tutto, installa TexLive 2012. La versione di Ubuntu, che poi altro non è
            che quella di Debian, è ormai un po’ vecchia. Inoltre, per motivi di sicurezza
            (almeno dal punto di vista di Debian) quella versione non ha tlmgr, per cui
            non puoi apportare automaticamente modifiche e aggiornamenti ai pacchetti
            direttamente dai repository di TexLive. Se poi ti servono programmi particolari
            (ad es. Kile, Texmaker, o altre cose che non immagini come mutt-print)
            che richiedono dipendenze che a quel punto Ubuntu non troverà, ricorri
            a equivs. Si tratta di creare pacchetti virtuali (e vuoti, per cui occupano
            uno spazio irrisorio) che “ingannano” gli altri pacchetti. Per fare un esempio,
            Kile crederà di trovare tutto quanto gli serve in versione Ubuntu per installarsi.

            m

            7 Aprile 2013 alle 19:08 in risposta a: Font ottici #84517
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              Messi a letto i bimbi, ho fatto una prova con questo codice:
              `\documentclass[a4paper,12pt]{article}
              \usepackage[T1]{fontenc}
              \usepackage[utf8]{inputenc}
              \usepackage[italian]{babel}
              \usepackage{MinionPro}
              \usepackage{microtype}

              \begin{document}

              normale

              \small{poi lkj èpoèpo nbvbnv}

              \footnotetext{poi lkj èpoèpo nbvbnv}

              \large{poi lkj èpoèpo nbvbnv}

              \Huge{poi lkj èpoèpo nbvbnv}

              \end{document}`
              e leggo nel log:
              `LaTeX Font Info: External font `cmex10' loaded for size
              (Font) <7> on input line 14.
              LaTeX Font Info: External font `cmex10' loaded for size
              (Font) <5> on input line 14.
              LaTeX Font Info: Font shape `LY1/MinionPro-OsF/m/n' will be
              (Font) scaled to size 7.0pt on input line 14.
              LaTeX Font Info: Font shape `LY1/MinionPro-OsF/m/n' will be
              (Font) scaled to size 14.4pt on input line 16.
              LaTeX Font Info: Font shape `LY1/MinionPro-OsF/m/n' will be
              (Font) scaled to size 24.88pt on input line 18.`
              Naturalmente, potrei aver capito tutto sbagliato,
              ma non mi pare utilizzi i vari tipi di font, e che si limiti invece
              a scalare il Minion normale…

              m

              7 Aprile 2013 alle 19:05 in risposta a: Kerning dell’apostrofo in Adobe Jenson Pro #84559
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                Infallibile Enrico… !!!! 🙂

                m

                7 Aprile 2013 alle 15:18 in risposta a: Font ottici #84516
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                  Ah, chiarissimo!

                  Ma se uso i font con pdflatex e imposto
                  `\usepackage{MinionPro}`
                  pdflatex prende semplicemente MinionPro.map
                  aumentando e diminuendo i carattere
                  o, a seconda della dimensione del carattere richiesta,
                  ricorre anche a MinioProCaption.map ecc ?

                  m

                  7 Aprile 2013 alle 14:26 in risposta a: Kerning dell’apostrofo in Adobe Jenson Pro #84557
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                    Con questo codice:
                    `\documentclass[a4paper,12pt]{article}
                    \usepackage[T1]{fontenc}
                    \usepackage[utf8]{inputenc}
                    \usepackage[greek,italian]{babel}
                    \usepackage{JensonPro}
                    \usepackage{microtype}
                    \setlength{\parskip}{1ex plus 0.5ex minus 0.2ex}
                    \setlength{\parindent}{0pt}
                    \frenchspacing
                    \newcommand{\GR}[1]{%
                    \begin{otherlanguage*}{greek}#1\end{otherlanguage*}}
                    \DeclareRobustCommand{\greektext}{%
                    \fontencoding{LGR}\fontfamily{artemisia}\selectfont
                    \def\encodingdefault{LGR}}
                    % kerning dell'apostrofo
                    \makeatletter
                    \catcode`\'=12
                    \def\qu@te{'}
                    \catcode`'=\active
                    \begingroup
                    \obeylines\obeyspaces%
                    \gdef\@resetactivechars{%
                    \def^^M{\@activechar@info{EOL}\space}%
                    \def {\@activechar@info{space}\space}%
                    }%
                    \endgroup
                    \providecommand\texorpdfstring[2]{#1}
                    \protected\def'{\texorpdfstring{\texqu@te}{\string'}}
                    \def\texqu@te{\relax
                    \ifmmode
                    \expandafter^\expandafter\bgroup\expandafter\prim@s
                    \else
                    \expandafter\futurelet\expandafter\@let@token\expandafter\qu@t@
                    \fi}
                    \def\qu@t@{%
                    \ifx'\@let@token
                    \qu@te\qu@te\expandafter\@gobble
                    \else
                    {}\qu@te{}\penalty\@M\hskip\expandafter\z@skip
                    \fi}
                    \scantokens\expandafter{%
                    \expandafter\def\expandafter\pr@m@s\expandafter{\pr@m@s}}
                    \makeatother
                    \begin{document}

                    L'apostrofo qui è posizionato correttamente

                    Ma nel greco gli accenti no. Infatti nell'esempio:
                    \GR{<'usteron pr'oteron} sono spostati visibilmente a destra \end{document}` il risultato è il seguente: [attachment=661]zzzz.png[/attachment] Co nXelatex tutto, come dicevo, risulta corretto, con pdflatex il problema è quello che si vede. Stessa cosa col Minion, tranne che in quel caso non è necessario specificare un alfabeto greco alternativo, poiché quel font inlude il gredo e il cirillico. m PS come noterete, continuo a confondere la sinistra con la destra... sarà colpa della situazione politica :-)

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                    7 Aprile 2013 alle 14:05 in risposta a: Font ottici #84514
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                      Scusa, ma non capisco bene.
                      Siamo d’accordo, autoinst installa gli otf. Xelatex gli usa.
                      Io intendevo chiedere se il fatto che MinioPro
                      abbia ben quattro file map, uno per dimensione,
                      può impedire a Xelatex di usarli tutti
                      a seconda delle dimensioni del carattere
                      che impostonel file da comporre.
                      Dalla tua risposta mi par di capire che Xelatex
                      non ha bisogno di queste map per gestire
                      adeguatamente le dimensioni del font…
                      E se compilo con pdflatex? L’esistenza
                      di queste quattro mappe lo confonde?

                      m

                      7 Aprile 2013 alle 9:46 in risposta a: Font ottici #84512
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                        Eliminate le voci doppi nel file in /usr/local/texlive/2012/…,
                        in modo che le map dei caratteri da me installati rimangano
                        in /usr/local/texlive/texmf-local/, nel caso di aggiornamenti
                        o reinstallazioni. Tutto funziona.

                        Un nuovo dubbio. Peraltro, mi spiace invadere il forum
                        con questi thread sui font, ma nello specifico mi pare
                        sia un tema qui mai trattato finora, così magari potranno
                        risultare utili a qualcun altro. Ho un problema coni MinionPro,
                        versione a corpi (4) ottici. Durante l’installazione con autoinst,
                        a differenza di quanto accaduto con altri font sempre
                        con (4) corpi ottici, ricevo il messaggio che il programma
                        non riesce a gestire tutti i file del font in un unico file map,
                        e ne produce quattro distinti, uno normale, uno capt, uno
                        subhead e uno disp. Vorrei capire se, caricando in un file
                        `\setmainfont[Ligatures=TeX,Numbers=OldStyle,Scale=1.1]{Minion Pro}`
                        Xelatex è in grado di usare tutti e quattro i tipi,
                        o se a questo punto riduce o aumenta solo il tipo “normale”.
                        Da cosa lo capisco?

                        m

                        6 Aprile 2013 alle 18:48 in risposta a: Font ottici #84510
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                          A dire il vero in questo caso ho lasciato fare tutto a autoinst…
                          Allora da dove devo togliere a mano? Da /usr/local/texlive/2012/
                          o da /usr/local/texlive/texmf-local/ ? A me, trattandosi di caratteri
                          da me aggiunti, parrebbe pià corretto togliere da /usr/local/texlive/2012/…

                          m

                          6 Aprile 2013 alle 15:55 in risposta a: Font ottici #84508
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                            Risolto, era un problema di permessi. Ho “chmodato” i file a 644,
                            mentre prima non erano leggibili dagli utenti semplici.

                            Un dubbio finale: updmap-sys mi dà un sequenza di
                            `updmap: font GaramondPremrPro-Smbd-tlf-ly1–base is defined multiple times:
                            updmap: GaramondPremierPro.map (from /usr/local/texlive/texmf-local/web2c/updmap.cfg)
                            updmap: GaramondPremierPro (from /usr/local/texlive/2012/texmf-config/web2c/updmap.cfg) (used)`
                            Quale doppione cancello? Da un lato dovrei (credo) mantere la prima versione, nell’albero personale,
                            però il messaggio mi suggerisce che ad essere usata è la seconda…

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                            5 Aprile 2013 alle 21:30 in risposta a: Font ottici #84507
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                              Ahimé, i guai non finiscono mai…
                              Ho installato l’Adobe Jenson Pro con la medesima procedura utilizzata
                              per l’installazione dell’Adobe Garamond Premier. Otfinfo mi conferma
                              l’esistenza del maiuscoletto, dei numeri minuscoli ecc
                              `root@debian:~# otfinfo -f /usr/local/texlive/texmf-local/source/fonts/jensonpro/AJensonPro-Regular.otf
                              aalt Access All Alternates
                              c2sc Small Capitals From Capitals
                              case Case-Sensitive Forms
                              cpsp Capital Spacing
                              dlig Discretionary Ligatures
                              dnom Denominators
                              frac Fractions
                              hist Historical Forms
                              kern Kerning
                              liga Standard Ligatures
                              lnum Lining Figures
                              numr Numerators
                              onum Oldstyle Figures
                              ordn Ordinals
                              ornm Ornaments
                              pnum Proportional Figures
                              sinf Scientific Inferiors
                              size Optical Size
                              smcp Small Capitals
                              sups Superscript
                              tnum Tabular Figures
                              zero Slashed Zero`
                              Eppure, al momento di compilare un testo con Xelatex (ea differenza del Garamond Premier),
                              i numeri minuscoli e il maiuscoletto risultano assenti (mentre con pdflatex è tutto regolare):
                              `* OpenType feature 'Numbers=OldStyle' (+onum) not available for font 'Adobe
                              * Jenson Pro' with script '' and language ''.
                              …
                              LaTeX Font Warning: Font shape `EU1/AdobeJensonPro(0)/m/sc' undefined
                              (Font) using `EU1/AdobeJensonPro(0)/m/n' instead on input line 24.`
                              La questione è misteriosa o si può formulare una diagnosi?

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                              5 Aprile 2013 alle 19:44 in risposta a: Font ottici #84506
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                                L’Adobe ha realizzato diversi caratteri reperibili in formato otf con corpo ottico:
                                http://www.adobe.com/type/topics/opticalsize.html
                                tutti con i quattro corpi (e solo quelli) che rilevi anche tu.
                                Allora ci sono dubbi, installo quelli. Grazie per la spiegazione

                                m

                                5 Aprile 2013 alle 17:31 in risposta a: Aumentare la sillabazione in XeTeX #84430
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                                  Lo stiamo studiando alacremente! 🙂

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